Saturday 23 October 2010

Is islam a religion of peace? - How to debate and frustrate infidels


I watched a debate on Intellingence Squared on American TV the other day, the title of which was ‘Is islam a religion of peace?’ At the beginning and end of the debate the audience were invited to vote on the motion for or against islam being a religion of peace.

Although the debate was nearly two hours in length it was well worth watching. There were two people giving ‘evidence’ for islam Zeba Khan & Maajid Nawaz) and two against (Ayaan Hirsi & Douglas Murray).

The results of the debate speak for themselves...

Pre debate: 41% for 25% against 34% not sure

Post debate: 36% for 55% against 9% not sure

Watching it reminded me of a video I saw a few years back called How to debate and frustrate infidels by Ayesha Ahmed (Ayesha Ahmed University Pakistan) and you could be forgiven for thinking the two people debating for the motion came straight from the schooling of Ayesha Ahmed.

Here is the transcript of the video...

Dear brothers and sisters in islam: we live in kuffar country and daily we have to face the infidels who criticise islam and our prophet, and who want to debate us.

In as Islamic country if someone did that all we have to do is announce loudly what he said and the rest is taken care of by an angry mob. The critic is lynched in no time. End of story.

However here we don’t have that luxury as yet. Inshallah in foreseeable future after we grow by conversions of morons and criminals in prisons, legal and illegal immigration and procreation we will, inshallah, become a majority and will not have to face this problem on daily basis.

However, for the time being following is an approach all muslim brothers and sisters can use when faced with such a pest. Jazakallah Khair inshallah the vermin will steer clear of you in future.

1. A popular question is “why islam calls for death of Islamic critics and apostates”. Insist that their info is false. Quote aya “to you your religion and to me my religion”.

2. To answer “islam spread with sword”, say that it is a big lie spread by the Jews and Hindus and that quran clearly says “there is no compulsion in religion”.

3. If someone quotes violent ayas from quran, accuse him of quoting ayas in bits and pieces and cherry picking.

4. If he then quotes full ayas and ayas before and after, then insist that the translation is wrong.

5. If he then brings ten different translations then say correct meanings can be understood only by reading quran in Arabic.

6. If he happens to be well versed in Arabic language then insist that those ayas don’t mean what they appear to mean as they have allegorical meanings.

7. If he is adamant, then say you cannot understand those ayas and it’s context without reading hadith and sira.

8. If he shows up with hadiths and siras in hand and quotes the context of the violent ayas by referring to hadiths of prophet’s rapes, robberies, assassinations and genocides then insist that “all hadiths and siras are heresay and are false, and only truth is in quran.

9. If he says quran is a man-made document and wants proof of it’s divinity then refer to the sciences in the quran and the book written by Dr. Bucaile confirming the sciences in our holy book. You can also quote that Mahatma Ghandi read quran daily and also spoke highly of it.

10. If he syas that Bucaile was on Saudi payroll and that nor he nor Gandhi ever changed their religions and that Bucaile was challenged and proven wtong by many experts then challenge him to ask his experts to debate islamists like losr Zakir Naik.

11. If the pest still hangs around then change the topic and find faults in other religions and their books.

12. If he continues on then use personal attacks and insult him by calling him a Jewish a-hole, a Chinese pig or Hindu dog.

13. If that does not frustrate him then ask him how much he is being paid by Jews to throw dirt on al islam.

14. If he still does not stop then run for his mother and sister and use very filthy language.

15. If he is very stubborn and wants to continue then curse him like “burn in hell, you will repent on last day, Allah will get you in your grave” etc.

16. When all else fails threaten him with bodily harm and end the debate by drum beating and announcing that you won’t debate hands down because quran is the word of allah.

17. If possible announce about this debate in an islamist website and that you won it handily. Such announcements do wonders for the imam of muslim website readers and for dawah operations in prisons to convince low IQ prisoners of the truth of al islam.

You can read Ayesha Ahmed’s ‘testimonial’ HERE where she discusses ways to forward the muslim brotherhood through the bedroom, beheading, rape, and poisoning.

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